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Nice film. Now maybe you can answer something that has always puzzled me and I somehow keep forgetting to ask for an answer. Any other time we make a brochah we are required to partake of the item we have made the brochah on without a hafsakah between the brochah and the partaking. In havdalah we make a "pri hagofen" and then there is a large hafsakah with two other brochas until the person making havdalah actually drinks from the wine. Why is it allowed in havdalah?
Cubicle King, you have a new chossid!
I know that house.
Nice nigun.ProfK, I don't remember the reason, but that very problem is the reason why it is preferable for women to hear havdala from a man rather than say it themselves, because it's a safek of whether women are obligated in havdala to the same extent, and they shouldn't have the hefsek if they might not need to. But of course I don't remember the particulars![rummages in old halacha notes...]
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Bas Melech - the way I learned it is that the question is whether women are obligated in the bracha of borei meorei ha'aish, and if they're not, then it would be considered a safek. However, the Rabbi who taught me that also added that he doesn't understand why, then, saying "amen" to that bracha wouldn't be considered a safek for women!
Why do I see a blank white square? :-(
beautiful havadalah but i would be dying to eat already!
Can someone tell me what I need to download to view it?
ProfK--In Kiddush, you have the same scenario. After hagafen, you don't drink right away. I don't know why it's okay but I assume it's the same answer for both.
almost there I am thinking either you need to download adobe flash or you are surfing the web through a server that blocks youtube videos. (school or work)-CK
Thanks, CK, you were right. I unblocked You Tube and was able to see it.Ezzie, is that your house? Looks like you have dozens of people there!
The Havdalah is at "The Flamm's in Baltimore. They are a local family who have 30-50 college kids every Friday night. Sometimes they can get students who sleep over so I made a nice "Hertsich" Havdalah for the dozen or so who spent the entire shabbos. -CK
ProfK - Most brachos that are on things which require another action have a delay - say, the hagafen by erusin (was just at a wedding). Not sure why that's how it goes, though.AT - No, but should CK ever come up here for a Shabbos we'd be happy to have him make Havdalah. :) Our house isn't that big... :P
Why is all the singing in between not a hefsek? My father is always makpid that the besamim is passed around quickly and everyone just takes a short whiff so that there shouldn't be any extra hefsek between hagafen and the drinking.
Anon 1:42 -- Thanks, I believe you got it. I don't think amen is an issue because you're not the one saying the bracha and drinking the wine. We say amen to all kinds of brachos without participating in the action, that's not an issue.Maybe the hefsek isn't an issue because all of the brachos are considered part of one "set" that all together comprise havdalah (or kiddush) so it's really one unit. (me'oray ha'aish is different because I believe it has something to do with Adam Harishon...?)
However, the Rabbi who taught me that also added that he doesn't understand why, then, saying "amen" to that bracha wouldn't be considered a safek for women!"amein" is how you're supposed to respond to any berakha, no matter whether you're part of the halakhic action taking place.
The beginning sounds like Carlebach but where is the niggun for the brachos from?
I believe it is Debbie Friedman's niggun. -CK