If there is something to desire,
there will be something to regret.
If there is something to regret,
there will be something to recall.
If there is something to recall,
there was nothing to regret.
If there was nothing to regret,
there was nothing to desire.
- Vera Pavlova
SJ & I have different interpretations of the above poem, both of which work wonderfully for different situations. Feel free to ask or add your own; I think it's a brilliantly structured poem when you think about it...
The entire premise of that poem is false.
ReplyDeleteWhy the assumed relation of desire and regret?
Dear Shmez,
ReplyDeleteThat was absolutely unlazy!
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Also, I had a great new idea to kick it up a notch!
Thank you!
If there is something to desire,
ReplyDeletethere will be something to regret.
-Why?
If there is something to regret,
there will be something to recall.
-OK
If there is something to recall,
there was nothing to regret.
-Why?
If there was nothing to regret,
there was nothing to desire.
-Why?
Let's start with the first one:
ReplyDeleteIf there is something to desire,
there will be something to regret.
If you are desiring something, then you regret your inability to grasp that desire. You might regret a missed opportunity, or a mistake made, or something of the sort.
Y'all following? Do we need to make an example?
Diana - I know, right?! :D
ReplyDelete-If there is something to desire,
ReplyDeletethere will be something to regret.
--If you are desiring something, then you regret your inability to grasp that desire.
That is quite an apersion to cast onto people.
--You might regret a missed opportunity, or a mistake made, or something of the sort.
All possibly true...all also not necessarily related to "desire".
==typical "deep" or "thoughtful" poem...sounds good at first glance but falls apart under scrutiny.
That is quite an apersion to cast onto people.
ReplyDeleteYou're translating regret as an overly negative thing. I'm not.
All possibly true...all also not necessarily related to "desire".
How not?
==typical "deep" or "thoughtful" poem...sounds good at first glance but falls apart under scrutiny.
Typical shrug off when someone doesn't like something like it. :) You've barely scrutinized it!
-You're translating regret as an overly negative thing. I'm not.
ReplyDeleteIndeed!?
Regret -
>repent: feel remorse for; feel sorry for; be contrite about
>feel sad about the loss or absence of
>decline formally or politely; "I regret I can't come to the party"
>sorrow: sadness associated with some wrong done or some disappointment; "he drank to drown his sorrows"; "he wrote a note expressing his regret"; "to his rue, the error cost him the game"
>be sorry; "I regret to say that you did not gain admission to Harvard"
-How not? --> How so? **nyeh**
-Typical shrug off when someone doesn't like something like it. :)
You can hardly expect me to shrug something I approve of.
-You've barely scrutinized it!
Doesn't need all that much
Now, now!
ReplyDelete(Don't get stuck on the first two lines. It makes sense if you work through it.)
G - How are those definition overly negative? Merely feeling remorse/contrite about missed opportunities.
ReplyDeleteHow so? I've shown a way they are so. Onus is now on you, sir. :)
I meant you're shrugging off as a putdown without substantiation.
Apparently it needs more than you gave it. :)
I too see flaws in the poem though do not consider myself articulate enough to put them into words. I'll be happy to explain it to you in person, Ezzie.
ReplyDeleteG - Keep fighting.
Ezzie - to help me understand this poem, will you please use an example and work through it with each line? Thanks!
I too see flaws in the poem though do not consider myself articulate enough to put them into words. I'll be happy to explain it to you in person, Ezzie.
ReplyDeleteNever said it was perfect! Just good. And since when am I more articulate than you?! Weak. :)
Shall we really use an example? Hmm... lemme think of one that I can use in such a setting.
Ezzie! Have you seen this story yet?
ReplyDeletehttp://jewesswithhorns.blogspot.com/2008/02/glob-vote-for-denver-jewish-boys.html
Hi. Totally not on topic, but do you or any of your readers know what the ceiling rent for Section 8 in NYC for a household of one is? I am thinking of relocating to your neck of the woods.
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