Thursday, April 03, 2008

Boxer, Rabbi?

(Hat tip: Mom) This story is very interesting:
Four days before his first North American Boxing Federation title defense, Yuri Foreman sat in the basement of a Brooklyn brownstone studying Shulchan Aruch, the code of Jewish law. By early afternoon, he would be at Gleason’s Gym to train for his approaching bout with Saul Rom├ín, a power puncher from Mexico with 24 knockouts in 28 fights.
The Times article discusses the possible halachic issues with boxing (trying to injure another), which is also interesting to see.

Rabbi Joseph Potasnik, executive vice president of the New York Board of Rabbis, said Jewish principles would seem to put Foreman’s professional career at odds with his religious education. It is forbidden, the rabbi said, to injure yourself or another person. Rabbinic law also asks individuals to avoid situations of potential danger.

“He has to recognize there are certain issues he has to confront,” Potasnik said. “Doing what he’s doing is problematic, but all of life is problematic. That’s something he has to resolve, and I respect him for his commitment.”

But Rabbi Benjamin Blech, an assistant professor of the Talmud at Yeshiva University, said Foreman could help fight the belief that Jews were weak or could be bullied. When asked how he would react to the notion of a world champion boxing rabbi, Blech said, “I would be proud.”

Finally, I like how the article ends:
Rabbi Pinson said that if Foreman had approached him as a young man, he would not have suggested a boxing career. Because Foreman was already accomplished in the sport, however, he said he would not dissuade him.

Foreman attempts to restrict his fights to weekdays.

If a bout lands on a Saturday, as was the case in June, he observes the Sabbath by remaining within walking distance of the arena. Wilson, his manager, said the sun had yet to set when HBO officials called for Foreman to make his way to the ring. He refused to do so.

“He pulled me into the corner,” Wilson recalled, “and said, ‘Please, let’s pray for five minutes.’ ”
Firstly, I think that the point from R' Pinson is often missed today: Advising people on what's best for them, not on what is typically done or expected. Unfortunately, it seems that this is not always the case today. And of course, the young man's actions are a nice Kiddush Hashem.


  1. Advising people on what's best for them, not on what is typically done or expected.

    Yes. I agree with this.

    (Okay, is it a school-wide rule that every single space-bar in Stern should be broken? Grrrr.)

    Great article. I haven't actually read the whole thing yet but what you put here is pretty awesome.

  2. Couldn't agree more. Thank you very much for sharing.

  3. Very interesting article! Are Karate tournaments out too then?

  4. I could not DISAGREE more...I could try, but I would not be successful.

    --no time to get into it now. be back later.

  5. Interesting yes, but seriously problematic, for various reasons.

    Looks like a new Lubavitcher trend - Salita and Foreman, who knows who is next. The Lubavitchers benefit from the celebrity status of the boxers now, but will it last forever ?

    They are not role models we should hold up high. Boxing is dangerous and violent. Okay, they deserve credit, definitely, but there are still very serious issues that need to be addressed here.