G - No. If I had time, I'd have discussed how he's exactly right: The West certainly wishes for exactly those things to happen, for a variety of reasons, much less to do with "laughing" at them than to do with a refocusing on living their own lives vs. trying to transform civilization to fit their own worldview.
What a riot. "Do you want to make the Jews and Christians happy?" Like there's some big Western conspiracy to get Muslim kids to celebrate Valentine's Day. I have to admit though, there's nothing like a fat, hairy Muslim cleric screaming paranoid propaganda to get me in the mood for Valentine's Day. Do you think he's taken?
G- like anonymous 2 said, it's probably like a speech we've heard before with a few words changed. It's about focusing inwardly and keeping tradition rather than joining tradtions of cultures that are the antithesis of what we are all about. But that said - I am 'hearing' the speeches from MY childhoood and even adulthood - THOSE ring in my ears and I am ABLE to hear them correctly as they was given over to me by my great teachers. This guy is mouthing something in a crazy diluted version of which I have heard spoken in beauty and truth. This person here lacks the beauty of what I've been taught. He lacks the grace and the truth. Like watching the Lion King and seeing that a father loves his son, yet knowing the love of a parent in real life is a far cry from the animation. Anyway - it's interesting, but any religion, not only muslims will speak words which sometimes seem familiar to things we've heard in our own lives.
wow so intense! the whole time all i could think was calm down!!! hes so worked up lol
ReplyDeleteReally funny; I think I heard the same speech ten years ago in yeshiva.
ReplyDeleteI could totally see R. Yitzchak Cohen at YU giving a similar shmooz (changing a few words obviously)
ReplyDeleteIs he wrong?
ReplyDeleteG - No. If I had time, I'd have discussed how he's exactly right: The West certainly wishes for exactly those things to happen, for a variety of reasons, much less to do with "laughing" at them than to do with a refocusing on living their own lives vs. trying to transform civilization to fit their own worldview.
ReplyDeleteWhat a riot.
ReplyDelete"Do you want to make the Jews and Christians happy?" Like there's some big Western conspiracy to get Muslim kids to celebrate Valentine's Day. I have to admit though, there's nothing like a fat, hairy Muslim cleric screaming paranoid propaganda to get me in the mood for Valentine's Day. Do you think he's taken?
SR - I get the feeling that he has a few Fatimas, based on his position, but that he doesn't buy them gifts.
ReplyDeleteNot what I meant.
ReplyDeleteIs his lesson wrong?
Not sure what lesson you mean.
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ReplyDeletelike anonymous 2 said, it's probably like a speech we've heard before with a few words changed. It's about focusing inwardly and keeping tradition rather than joining tradtions of cultures that are the antithesis of what we are all about.
But that said - I am 'hearing' the speeches from MY childhoood and even adulthood - THOSE ring in my ears and I am ABLE to hear them correctly as they was given over to me by my great teachers. This guy is mouthing something in a crazy diluted version of which I have heard spoken in beauty and truth.
This person here lacks the beauty of what I've been taught. He lacks the grace and the truth. Like watching the Lion King and seeing that a father loves his son, yet knowing the love of a parent in real life is a far cry from the animation.
Anyway - it's interesting, but any religion, not only muslims will speak words which sometimes seem familiar to things we've heard in our own lives.