Renowned Rabbi David Batzri comes up with creative solution for thousands of single women participating in prayer assembly in Jerusalem on 'respectable mating.' Rabbi appeals to women not to put off pregnancy once married, says 'using birth control damages household income'Yeah... consult your OWN Rav and Doctors, please.
Have at least 12 children, do not use birth control, and continue having children after 40. This is the formula for overcoming sterility and long-term bachelorhood in the Religious Zionism movement put forth by renowned Rabbi David Batzri. In a women's assembly in Jerusalem held Thursday in Jerusalem, the rabbi asserted that "a girl who wishes to marry must take upon herself already on the first date an obligation to have no less than 12 children." In addition, he encouraged women to put pressure on one another not to delay pregnancy after getting married and not to wait long in between births.The rabbi claimed that using birth control damages household income. He said, "When you use control methods, you stop abundance. When you see a woman whose youngest child is three, this means that she has been using control methods for three years. Convince her not to do this."
Rabbi Batzri added, "Even at the age of 40 and up, it is possible to give birth, and it isn't dangerous."
Friday, July 10, 2009
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This is... interesting:
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Yeah, I saw that one. I might have a few things to say, but I wanted to avoid making a "knee-jerk" type of post. :)
ReplyDeleteThe Wolf
That's a terrific idea. It's guaranteed to lead to huge increases in poverty, divorce, child neglect, overcrowding in our schools, and the premature deaths of thousands of young mothers when their exhausted wombs fall right out of their bodies.
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Blanket statements for everyone in the world just work SO well!
ReplyDeleteI wish we had more Rabbanim that lived in this world. So many of them sound as if they already live in olam habah (the world to come).
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>So many of them sound as if they already live in olam habah (the world to come).
ReplyDeleteCripes. I think I'm actually going to start using that statement myself.
Ezzie, I'm sorry that I already used the posting title "We're not immune to being stupid just because we're Jewish." I would have lent it to you gladly for this posting.
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Very few women have had 12 children. Even Leah Immenu who proved prolific enough to have 7 children in under seven years did not have 12 children herself. Yocheved only had 3 children, Aharon, Miriam, and Moshe. Would anyone dare say that this is a fault on her part? Clearly, there is no number of children that all women can be held to. By this person's reckoning, even my grandmother who had 10 and my aunt who had 11, never mind those who had only 9, 4, or 3, would have not been doing all they should.
ReplyDeleteHH - Ezzie you are always so nice and polite to make sure you respond to everyone.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite bloggers tend to do this, Ezzie, David B from Treppenwitz, Ari from Lion of Zion, etc. I like it a lot!
Mark
Mark - I don't always, but I try. My favorite aspect of blogging is typically the discussion, so it's best to at least acknowledge people when they say something... though often there's little to add or reply, so sometimes I just will let the thread go on its own. (Like here.) :)
ReplyDeleteHe should send his kids to school in Northern NJ for a year, I bet he would change his mind the day his bill comes.
ReplyDeleteIn the US, many rabbanim will tell you to wait between kids to give your body time to heal.
ReplyDeleteI personally know someone that hemorrhaged after #8. The nurse told her it's common when you have so many kids so close together. She told me she was afraid to sleep the first night as she feared she wouldn't wake up.
Am I the only one who just doesn't follow the logic? I mean what does 12 kids have to do with bachelorhood and sterility? If you're having 12 kids, you're probably married already and not sterile.
ReplyDeleteI'm with Bad4. Why is this advice given to singles? It's not what I'd want to hear.
ReplyDeleteHF - Hehe.
ReplyDeleteLB - Story I've heard and possibly discussed here is a couple going to R' Elyashiv after 4 kids in 5 years, and the husband saying he doesn't know if there's a heter to go on birth control. R' Elyashiv asks who gave him a heter to have four kids in five years.
Bad4, MiI - I think he's saying that people who have such a mindset will find it easier to get married. I don't follow the logic either.
Heard that story too.
ReplyDeleteI also heard one where a young woman with 4 kids from Lakewood spoke to a kallah teacher from Queens. She asked if the kallah teacher teaches kallah's about birth control. The kallah teacher said she did. The mother from Lakewood said she wished her kallah teacher told her that and she only found out about it after she was already overwhelmed.