tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post113169397377127626..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: (J-)BlogoSphere - Help!Ezziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1132288321207877512005-11-17T23:32:00.000-05:002005-11-17T23:32:00.000-05:00Jewropean: I don't agree or disagree with you. I'd...Jewropean: I don't agree or disagree with you. I'd be curious what value secular education (or any education) has "in and of itself" if it serves no practical purpose. (Not saying it doesn't - just curious what others think...)Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1132034886324630662005-11-15T01:08:00.000-05:002005-11-15T01:08:00.000-05:00Shira - LOL!Shira - LOL!Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1132031662361206962005-11-15T00:14:00.000-05:002005-11-15T00:14:00.000-05:00I'm with Jack of the Shack on this one--I'm "meeti...I'm with Jack of the Shack on this one--I'm "meeting" Jews through the "Olam HaBlog" whom I'd never have the opportunity to get to know in real life. We tend to stay with our own kind in real life--be our "own kind" black-hat or apikorus/heretic. And we spend too much time looking down on one another. I may not always agree with some of the fine folks who comment on my blog, but it's a wonderful opportunity to learn from others, and to try to see Yahadut/Judaism through different eyes. Where else can you find Orthodox Jews and tallit-and-tefillin-wearing egalitarian Jewish women actually having a serious and respectful conversation concerning the Akedah with one another?Shira Salamonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989302669175887512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131958151046131262005-11-14T03:49:00.000-05:002005-11-14T03:49:00.000-05:00You might find some of my blogs of interest. Yesh...You might find some of my blogs of interest. YeshaSpeaksOut.org is an attem[pt to provide a "community" voice to Jewish residents of communities throughout Judea, Samaria and fomerly Gaza. The Disengagement.org blog was similar both with over forty contributors. Blogs like EFSI.blogspot.com were set up to corrdinate online protests and 'hasbara' initiatives.<BR/><BR/>Best of luck on your endeavourYoel.Ben-Avrahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03833004397515977724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131873602702330392005-11-13T04:20:00.000-05:002005-11-13T04:20:00.000-05:00You could go this route:a) types of blogs - anonym...You could go this route:<BR/>a) types of blogs - anonymous; news/informative; outright argumentative; activist<BR/>b) or give examples of major campaigns waged (mechitzah; mt. zion; disengagement)<BR/>c) mention various efforts to coordinate and/or link up sites including awards, etc.<BR/>d) and from "c" - does blogging improve Jewish unity or reflect basic discombobulation?YMedadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14333122797414935958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131837768081985642005-11-12T18:22:00.000-05:002005-11-12T18:22:00.000-05:00You might also want to discuss how easy it is to s...You might also want to discuss how easy it is to start rumors and stop them via blogging. You certainly could make someone's life really miserable etc.AShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802355878284709939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131726652730334052005-11-11T11:30:00.000-05:002005-11-11T11:30:00.000-05:00I think an interesting aspect of the blogosphere i...I think an interesting aspect of the blogosphere is the fact that it seems to give so many the freedom to express their "true colors" in a way that they seem reluctant to do in real life, because of the anonymity involved. This, in turn, gives the readers the opportunity to see someone noone else ever really world.<BR/><BR/>Also, I definitely think the online communities that are formed would be great to discuss. Ze'ev's recent post about that certainly rings true for me - the people I have met through the blogging world have be incredible additions to my life and I think the relationships that are formed are done do because of the similar goals and focus in bloggers' lives which comes through in their blogs and bonds bloggers together.Shoshanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365142117481675663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131723413291161472005-11-11T10:36:00.001-05:002005-11-11T10:36:00.001-05:00HWHL, that used to be in GH's (pbuh) sidebar as pa...HWHL, that used to be in GH's (pbuh) sidebar as part of an "emunah warning."respondingtojblogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780940050084450374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131723365081794202005-11-11T10:36:00.000-05:002005-11-11T10:36:00.000-05:00Muse - please do!R2JB - Noted. I'm going to hold o...Muse - please do!<BR/><BR/>R2JB - Noted. I'm going to hold off on commenting for a bit on this, as well - allow more people to do so.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131720230822351092005-11-11T09:43:00.000-05:002005-11-11T09:43:00.000-05:00I think that one of the most interesting things ab...I think that one of the most interesting things about blogging is the chance to interact with the world and in particular the JBlog world gives Jews of all backgrounds a chance to peek inside the lives of others. There are a lot of misconceptions and misunderstandings of what the life of a Satmar, MO, Reform, Conservative, BT, FFB Jew is like and this world gives us a chance to see what is on the other side of the curtain.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131719683031309662005-11-11T09:34:00.000-05:002005-11-11T09:34:00.000-05:00oh, and one more thingregarding rtjb, there is alo...oh, and one more thing<BR/>regarding rtjb, there is alot of frank discussions, but i dont see any blogs actually suggesting an alternative.<BR/><BR/>This is my point of the jblog world. <BR/><BR/>Easy to tear down, not so easy to build up.<BR/><BR/>If there are, point them my way! Anonymouse suggested we teach our kids like in reform schools. Then they will have plenty of time to become BT.<BR/>Ironic.topshadchanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07153946018043229765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131719284211406192005-11-11T09:28:00.000-05:002005-11-11T09:28:00.000-05:00ezziei would differentiate between "frank discussi...ezzie<BR/>i would differentiate between "frank discussion of emunah" and "actively looking to convert one to have no emunah" <BR/>I will respect that RTJB is looking for frank discussions. <BR/>But there are bloggers whose blogs and intentions fall into the latter category.<BR/><BR/>Then you have the leitzonisdika blogs.<BR/>heshyshouse is one. (i just stumbled on to it, and there is no doubt he is the "heshy from boro park" of yore, i knew him when i was in my early 20's)<BR/>yentapage,<BR/>vaadhatznius<BR/>Chaptzem<BR/>yeshivishorthodoxy<BR/><BR/>basically saying on the web, what they talk about at the shabbos kiddush.<BR/><BR/><BR/>There are the MO types.<BR/>r' giltopshadchanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07153946018043229765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131710476089347432005-11-11T07:01:00.000-05:002005-11-11T07:01:00.000-05:00I think that for many of us, blogging is like a fa...I think that for many of us, blogging is like a fantasy writing career. I have 4 very different blogs. Do you want me to send to the blogger list I made up when hosting Havel Havelim?Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131699583163525892005-11-11T03:59:00.000-05:002005-11-11T03:59:00.000-05:00I would wait for more comments to better synthesiz...I would wait for more comments to better synthesize.respondingtojblogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780940050084450374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131696116923788162005-11-11T03:01:00.000-05:002005-11-11T03:01:00.000-05:00Thanks - all great points. Excellent start to this...Thanks - all great points. Excellent start to this...<BR/><BR/>Should I put up a rough draft of a post at some point? Or hold off for now, and wait for more suggestions as to what should be in before doing that?Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131695582145501802005-11-11T02:53:00.000-05:002005-11-11T02:53:00.000-05:00Don't get all Hunter S. Thompson on us here.I thin...Don't get all Hunter S. Thompson on us here.<BR/><BR/>I think one sensitive point is the "Darkside" of the j-blogosphere, where there are "frank discussions of emunah," to quote my Rebbe, and over which HWHL has his panties in a bunch. To me that is the most crucial part of the <I>Jewish</I> blogosphere because, quite frankly that is what makes it unique from other blogdoms. The anonymity (we hope) of the blogosphere makes it an ideal locus of ocnversation that cannot take place in real life. <BR/><BR/>The unfortunate and obvious drawback is that you never know who you are talking to (except you, I'm pretty sure you aren't a 14 year old girl in Nigeria prepping me for a 419.<BR/><BR/>I think that any article about the j-blogosphere should definitely include the sense of community that develops. GH's retirement showed that people can actually feel slightly emotional about pixels on their screen.<BR/><BR/>The non-hashkafic sector of the j-blogosphere also attracts a community because it is a cheap and quick way to view local and global news through a lens we are familiar with- somewhat Jewish people.<BR/><BR/>As to the power of blogs in general, from CBS to bloggers in Paris inciting riots, I think the power of the blog cannot be doubted.<BR/><BR/>Communication over IP is going to change our planet.respondingtojblogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780940050084450374noreply@blogger.com