tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post113147717097572775..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: A Real Leak?Ezziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131551600981516622005-11-09T10:53:00.000-05:002005-11-09T10:53:00.000-05:00Meant to type "smarmy smile"...Meant to type "smarmy smile"...Bravo 2-1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05219307722101813302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131551541332861092005-11-09T10:52:00.000-05:002005-11-09T10:52:00.000-05:00Anon the Latter, do you have any more sourcing on ...Anon the Latter, do you have any more sourcing on this leak? Maybe some hyperlinks. A Href us!<BR/><BR/>It is interesting that both Frist and Hastert lined up on this one. A very interesting pair. Lott would probably like to smack Frist around a little too, if he had the chance. I really like Lott when he is on Meet The Press. He seems a little more willing to be honest.<BR/><BR/>There's nothing that bothers me more than a swarmy smile delivering talking points. Daschle is a prime offender.<BR/><BR/>Wow, did I digress.Bravo 2-1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05219307722101813302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131516201702807032005-11-09T01:03:00.000-05:002005-11-09T01:03:00.000-05:00I checked a number of places, and found that Trent...I checked a number of places, and found that Trent Lott was the only one who suggested it may have been from a fellow GOP member - likely one who mentioned it to a staffer, who then leaked it. I'm not sure why that's any more plausible than anybody else who had access to this information leaking it. In addition, this is coming from Lott, who feels the party abandoned him when he made improper comments last year.<BR/><BR/>The Geneva convention does not apply to terrorists. Check the rules that are written there.<BR/><BR/>Leaks are problems caused by people who leak information, as you said. <B>However</B>, the press still has the ability to decide not to run the story. Therefore, they are equally as (if not more) responsible.<BR/><BR/>I understand that the article did not include "maps" - that's not my point. I also mentioned that there are other reasons why this is a possible threat to national security. The CIA seems to agree, as they have requested the Justice Department to look into it, seperately from the request made by Frist et al. Regardless, the mere knowledge that the camps exist create a greater threat to those camps: Terrorists may now focus energies on finding those camps, knowing that they are at the least in a specific region, as opposed to across an ocean.<BR/><BR/>As a favor, can you pick a name (an anonymous one) - I find it difficult to differentiate between Anons in the event there's more than one on a single thread.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131514272943260442005-11-09T00:31:00.000-05:002005-11-09T00:31:00.000-05:00Source? It's all over the news! You might want to ...Source? It's all over the news! You might want to try something other than Fox though, they barely mentioned it during Special Report w/Brit Hume.<BR/>The leaks are not the problem of the media but rather the person doing the leaking in the first place. It is the media's responsibility to report what is obviously a huge story. You seem to forget, the reports did not include a google map of the address of each gulag, so your theory that terrorists will either attack the gulag to "free them" (the alleged terrorists) or create martyrs of them just doesn't hold water.<BR/>In principle I'm not completly opposed to torture under limited circumstances but that position by default takes all torture cards off the table, and then allows other nations to do the same to members of our military.<BR/>There are reasons we signed onto the Geneva Convention and the policy has served us well thus far. I think you are letting your blind support of all-things GOP cloud your better judgement and common sense.<BR/>Laila Tov...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131506788556597802005-11-08T22:26:00.000-05:002005-11-08T22:26:00.000-05:00Source? From the news stories I've seen, they have...Source? From the news stories I've seen, they haven't even started investigating yet. I didn't claim any side initiated it - just noted that these leaks are problems and that the media should be careful in their reporting of classified information.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131501901086719022005-11-08T21:05:00.000-05:002005-11-08T21:05:00.000-05:00Sorry to burst your anti-liberal bubble but it now...Sorry to burst your anti-liberal bubble but it now appears the leak came from within the GOP following a GOP/Cheney staff meeting last week on the hill.<BR/><BR/>MUHAHAHAHAHAHA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131486355280251932005-11-08T16:45:00.000-05:002005-11-08T16:45:00.000-05:00I need to read your other posts on this topic and ...I need to read your other posts on this topic and I plan to tonight, perhaps developing my post from today -- if I have the energy.<BR/><BR/>Right now I am sipping coffee at work and trying to not faceplant into my keyboard.Bravo 2-1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05219307722101813302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131484364629229102005-11-08T16:12:00.000-05:002005-11-08T16:12:00.000-05:00The best argument against the practices you mentio...The best argument against the practices you mention is others doing the reverse, and I'll grant that.<BR/><BR/>However, there's a far cry between terrorists and soldiers of other nations. I made this point in one of the links I mentioned above. The terrorists will torture and behead our soldiers regardless of whether or not we do the same; other countries will not. I am not suggesting a blanket okay for the US to practice these techniques; only in the case of a terrorist - and only when there's reason to believe they have information needed to save lives.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that keeping the ability to carry out such techniques will affect how others treat our soldiers. Terrorists will act however they want, no matter what we do; and other countries will not be applicable.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131482761981609222005-11-08T15:46:00.000-05:002005-11-08T15:46:00.000-05:00The next country we fight may torture (waterboard,...The next country we fight may torture (waterboard, crucify on bed posts, sleep deprive, etc etc.) our G.I.'s.<BR/><BR/>Treating prisoners of war humanely, no matter how misguided their cause, is an important military tradition. You will notice that some pretty distinguished Senators (Hagel, McCain) are against the tactics used by the Pentagon.<BR/><BR/>I cannot name the Marine, but during WW2 he would treat his prisoners to a kind face, cigarettes and an eager ear... he got much better intel than anyone else.Bravo 2-1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05219307722101813302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131481364122691082005-11-08T15:22:00.000-05:002005-11-08T15:22:00.000-05:00R2JB - Okay, that's what I was leaning towards, bu...R2JB - Okay, that's what I was leaning towards, but I was not sure. And that's one of my main points. Good way of putting it.<BR/><BR/>Copy Editor - I'm actually not as worried about what we're doing to them... you are new here, so you haven't read my posts on the subject. A few days ago I posted a discussion I was involved in called "Saving Lives"; and there's a link to "Interrogations: Torture or Neccessary Evil?" near the beginning.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131480779726153842005-11-08T15:12:00.000-05:002005-11-08T15:12:00.000-05:00I am referring to all the liberals who were so eag...I am referring to all the liberals who were so eager to join the nation security bandwagon with Libby now have to confront their own rhetoric as applied to an actual national security problem.respondingtojblogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780940050084450374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131479491268642982005-11-08T14:51:00.000-05:002005-11-08T14:51:00.000-05:00Personally, I am more worried about what we do to ...Personally, I am more worried about what we do to them than where we are keeping them.<BR/><BR/>It is interesting that intelligence leaks are going to get bounced about the political tennis court.<BR/><BR/>I guess it was a lot simpler when a reporter could telegraph what Generals Lee and Mead were up to the day before.Bravo 2-1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05219307722101813302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131478215040306072005-11-08T14:30:00.000-05:002005-11-08T14:30:00.000-05:00I'm not sure I understood you this time...I'm not sure I understood you this time...Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1131477511865223772005-11-08T14:18:00.000-05:002005-11-08T14:18:00.000-05:00Looks like it's whirlwind reaping timeLooks like it's whirlwind reaping timerespondingtojblogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04780940050084450374noreply@blogger.com