tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post9117701069581052040..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: Board Member Sues Google Over Orthomom?Ezziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-32742288835051773322009-11-25T11:14:02.570-05:002009-11-25T11:14:02.570-05:00Interesting post as for me. It would be great to r...Interesting post as for me. 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A friend was sued by a national real estate firm when people began leaving comments on his site that defamed the realtor- but had nothing to do with the site. <BR/><BR/>He was very surprised when this company's attorneys went after him for damages and he ended up taking his site down to avoid further problems. His own www.sowhaysonata.blog-city.comattorney advised him that in the future, he should explicitly state on his site that he would delete comments at his discretion- and that he should do so whenever a situation like this arose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-44220423037823266832007-02-19T13:55:00.000-05:002007-02-19T13:55:00.000-05:00Could somebody now plant a comment containing a vi...Could somebody now plant a comment containing a vicious anonymous attack on him/herself and then sue the blog that posted it? Welcome to modern times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-5356003268078125762007-02-18T09:49:00.000-05:002007-02-18T09:49:00.000-05:00HH, BOTH, Jack, Chana - :PHH, BOTH, Jack, Chana - :PEzziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-52491895183813305402007-02-18T00:08:00.000-05:002007-02-18T00:08:00.000-05:00I heard she was Jack's kindergarten teacher./not r...I heard she was Jack's kindergarten teacher.<BR/><BR/>/not reallyhave popcorn will lurkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03200484265589054583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-86287446434265625372007-02-17T23:44:00.000-05:002007-02-17T23:44:00.000-05:00I hear that she used to live in Pepper Pike.I hear that she used to live in Pepper Pike.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-68463329109011235202007-02-16T19:21:00.000-05:002007-02-16T19:21:00.000-05:00Untill a few hours ago, I had no idea that Ms. Pam...Untill a few hours ago, I had no idea that Ms. Pamela Greenbaum was neither ugly nor an anti-Semite.<BR/><BR/>Nor that there was a substantial orthodox community in the Bahamas.<BR/><BR/>Learn something new everyday.The back of the hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564245223453467132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-86702110026974471102007-02-16T14:36:00.000-05:002007-02-16T14:36:00.000-05:00Heeeeeeeey, This actually might be an awsome idea ...Heeeeeeeey, This actually might be an awsome idea for the Purim podcast parody. (rolls hands devilishly)Holy Hyraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17704030181702087485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-87514497897052396792007-02-16T14:01:00.000-05:002007-02-16T14:01:00.000-05:00I don't know about the most popular, but it's defi...I don't know about the most popular, but it's definitely an interesting one. :)Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-33783547268515765312007-02-16T14:00:00.001-05:002007-02-16T14:00:00.001-05:00Ami - Seriously, right?HH - No doubt... though I r...Ami - Seriously, right?<BR/><BR/>HH - No doubt... though I really like YW's explanation.<BR/><BR/>Yaakov W. - That's a really good point... Not knowing the face of your 'enemy' is worse than having one.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-73907138100292845832007-02-16T14:00:00.000-05:002007-02-16T14:00:00.000-05:00another ironic thing is that nothing could have he...another ironic thing is that nothing could have helped ortho's blog (and this and others) than this story.<BR/><BR/>i think that this will turn out to be the most popular story in the jewish blog world to date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-36337238099842039822007-02-16T13:56:00.000-05:002007-02-16T13:56:00.000-05:00I think that letter is awesome. She must be so fru...I think that letter is awesome. <BR/><BR/>She must be so frustrated being a person used to power and getting what she wants to be stuck without even the name of the person she is mad at. She can't pull any political strings and get back at her so she tried google, ha. Desperation if I ever saw it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-7357681171998477622007-02-16T13:49:00.000-05:002007-02-16T13:49:00.000-05:00Well, as OM mentions, if this really hurt her, she...Well, as OM mentions, if this really hurt her, she should have contacted her and asked to remove the offensive comments. But she diden't. Why? Well, its seems the green eyed monster is very hungry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-84470503250018891762007-02-16T12:16:00.000-05:002007-02-16T12:16:00.000-05:00Has Ms. Greenbaum heard of the first amendment? Ab...Has Ms. Greenbaum heard of the first amendment? Absurd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-803666940224882842007-02-16T11:36:00.000-05:002007-02-16T11:36:00.000-05:00LR - If there *were* real defamation, I might agre...LR - If there *were* real defamation, I might agree; but in this case, it's nothing. And again, this is a public figure. OM doesn't host the blog, Google does. OM is only the person in charge of this specific blog... and I don't think anyone can be held responsible for the defamatory comments of another on a blog. Even in comments on places like the NYTimes I doubt the Times can get sued for libelous comments.<BR/><BR/>Chaim - Heh. :) Good idea...!Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-88315612853201665902007-02-16T11:19:00.001-05:002007-02-16T11:19:00.001-05:00I think everyone should link to this story just to...I think everyone should link to this story just to show Mrs. Greenbaum what the REAL power of a blog can accomplish. Funny thing is, before this morning I hardly even paid that much attention to the school board posts, but heck ya, now I am! Lol.Chaimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08236429066890015749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-23759325677486978772007-02-16T11:19:00.000-05:002007-02-16T11:19:00.000-05:00Having had to deal with issues of defamation befor...Having had to deal with issues of defamation before, I'm squarely on the side of the plaintiff. [In the hypothetical that it actually is defamation; dgesq is probably right.]<BR/><BR/>At the moment, anyone who googles her name comes up with that defamatory comment on the blog. To her, that is simply unacceptable. <BR/><BR/>So, who is responsible? Ultimately, OM herself, for hosting the blog. Who has more money? Google. So that's where the lawsuit is - today.<BR/><BR/>The major problem with a defamation lawsuit is that it must inevitably popularize the defamation before removing it. At times victims feel that it is worth the cost.Lab Rabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16548235776787443321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-46473216214136498332007-02-16T10:02:00.000-05:002007-02-16T10:02:00.000-05:00MiI - I don't think it'll ever even get close to h...MiI - I don't think it'll ever even get close to her.<BR/><BR/>DG - Hmm, someone learning about this or something? :) Great sum-ups, seriously - I can't imagine a judge even listening to this.<BR/><BR/>Chaim B - Exactly. Google has been very protective in other cases where people went after bloggers, so I don't think she has to worry.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-78198004818473794832007-02-16T09:33:00.000-05:002007-02-16T09:33:00.000-05:00I think OM will not have to defend herself unless ...I think OM will not have to defend herself unless she was named as a party in the suit. The only danger is that google removes OM's blog rather than face the suit, but in doing so I imagine Google would open itself to first amendmment issues and a whirlwind of legal trouble far more damaging than Greenbaum's purim joke. <BR/>Do you have a link to a copy of the Summons and Complaint? What lawfirm filed this on her behalf?Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-71653867655556587562007-02-16T09:31:00.000-05:002007-02-16T09:31:00.000-05:00Wow. This lady will never win an action for defama...Wow. This lady will never win an action for defamation. First of all, due to her position as a public official, the burden of proof to show defamation is much higher. She'll have to prove that the comments where made with a knowing falsehood OR acting with reckless disregard to truth or falsity of that statement--can't prove that. Second, in the famous case of New York Times <BR/>v. Sullivan, the Judge actually wrote in his opinion that proving defamatory statement about a public official is a tough fault to establish, it must be a deliberate lie or something very close to it.<BR/>Third, I think Google can rely on the single instance rule--where defamatory statement accuses plaintiff of single instance of misconduct in connection with plaintiff’s trade or profession, it is not actionable unless plaintiff can prove special harm.dgesqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10605190267231849461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-91616250558695943282007-02-16T08:48:00.000-05:002007-02-16T08:48:00.000-05:00The real question is whether OM be able to defend ...The real question is whether OM be able to defend herself without "coming out."mother in israelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13715046177293916034noreply@blogger.com