tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post8058200198562538290..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: What Is Your Plan?Ezziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-77562650546716694852008-04-07T21:19:00.000-04:002008-04-07T21:19:00.000-04:00Jewboy has it right. Parents can be very involved...Jewboy has it right. Parents can be very involved, but it may all go to H--- ironically in Israel. How to grow in your observance and passion for Judaism while supporting a family is not stressed or many times even addressed.<BR/>Also, as you point out, Ezzie, it is hard to conflict with a Rebbe or a Shita of a school. And, make no mistake about it, there is no way to "balance" if a clear message is being sent out that conflicts with the parents' message.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-53637015977631768192008-04-06T16:51:00.000-04:002008-04-06T16:51:00.000-04:00on the contrary, i think that many boys who stay i...on the contrary, i think that many boys who stay in yeshiva are the true copouts. rather than going out to the working world, where the responsibility falls on them to find time to be kovea itim while simultaneously supporting their family, these boys stay in yeshiva to be revered for their commitment to learning, while being fully supported by parents and in-laws. i'd like to see how strong their commitment to learning remained if they accepted their true responsibility to support their family instead of pawning it off on their parents, inlaws, and overburdened wives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-29563171715801547642008-04-06T14:59:00.000-04:002008-04-06T14:59:00.000-04:00As you point out here, I think many parents do emp...As you point out here, I think many parents do emphasize to their kids tht they should make a living. Some of the biggest "flip outs" in yeshiva and seminary in Israel come from homes where the parents either emphasized a Modern Orthodox hashkafa or taught their kids the value of working. The education in Israel needs balance to allow students to improve in Yiddishkeit while still realizng the need to support their families. Problem is, among other things, that balance is something rarely taught in Israel. It's more of a black and white kind of place.Jewboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192751655374816191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-70121094002019111262008-04-06T13:07:00.000-04:002008-04-06T13:07:00.000-04:00The connection to Chris Rock is BRILLIANT!Later in...The connection to Chris Rock is BRILLIANT!<BR/><BR/>Later in that routine, the dumb n**** says he's avoiding education to "keep it real"... which is exactly how Rebbeim are presenting this to kids - that in the misremembered fantasy land of shtetl Judaism, everyone just sat and learned and were SOOOO happy.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, right - and they all had parents and in-laws that supported them, bought them silver candlesticks and diamond engagement rings, thousand-dollar wigs and Borsalinos...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-667966291678102222008-04-04T15:27:00.000-04:002008-04-04T15:27:00.000-04:00It's sad when a Rebbi doesn't know his student wel...It's sad when a Rebbi doesn't know his student well enough to guide him properly. Ez, I'm sure it was pretty evident that you were not the long-term learning type of guy. The Rebbi should have concentrated on making sure you were equipped to go to college and become a productive member of the greater Jewish community. We can't survive without layleaders and 'askanim' either.SaraKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053908720926177402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-12047591891196229382008-04-04T13:37:00.000-04:002008-04-04T13:37:00.000-04:00In a way it's sad (and at the same time funny) and...In a way it's sad (and at the same time funny) and I guess a commentary on the times I have grown up in but...when I read this the two following things leaped to the front of my useless information crammed mind:<BR/><BR/>Where were the parents at?<BR/>and look where its at<BR/>Middle america, now its a tragedy<BR/>Now its so sad to see, <BR/>an upper class ci-ty<BR/>Havin this happenin...<BR/>-Marshall Mathers<BR/><BR/>or as Chris Rock so eloquently put it...<BR/><BR/>You know the worst thing about niggas? Niggas always want some credit for some s*** they supposed to do. <BR/>For some s*** they just supposed to do: A nigga will brag about some s*** a normal man just does.<BR/>A nigga will say some s*** like, "I take care of my kids."<BR/>You're supposed to, you dumb m****f****.<BR/>What are you talkin' about? What are you braggin' about? What kind of ignorant s*** is that?<BR/><BR/>"I ain't never been to jail."<BR/><BR/>What do you want, a cookie?<BR/><BR/>You're not supposed to go to jail you low expectation having m****f****.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512231582715592098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-23641001586067059642008-04-04T13:35:00.000-04:002008-04-04T13:35:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512231582715592098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-35565377876391968442008-04-04T13:30:00.000-04:002008-04-04T13:30:00.000-04:00side note - "copout" is a classic Rebbi word.side note - "copout" is a classic Rebbi word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com