tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post459657466393960532..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: One Day, Two Day, Rain Day, Dew DayEzziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-10495864763488256022008-09-25T15:13:00.000-04:002008-09-25T15:13:00.000-04:00Josh M - I agree in the case of the eidim; but say...Josh M - I agree in the case of the eidim; but say a person lived in EY, had just one day, then traveled for a few days to a place where the eidim had not gotten for whatever reason. Would they be compelled to keep two days as the people there were doing? Or would they keep one, since they had no safeik?<BR/><BR/>Moreover, nowadays is not about the actual safeik, so it would make it even more complicated.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-79941851468714736732008-09-25T15:06:00.000-04:002008-09-25T15:06:00.000-04:00Ezzie - AIUI, the fulfillment of "hizaharu b'minha...Ezzie - AIUI, the fulfillment of "hizaharu b'minhag avoseichem b'yadeichem" has to do with the erstwhile sefeikos as to which day is really the 15th day of Tishrei/Nissan and which day is really the 22/21st day of the respective months. Although the two sefeikos are virtually always bound together in practice, the theory behind them does not bind them so.<BR/><BR/>Another case (relevant before the 4th century CE): What if, for whatever reason, the eidei chodesh did not arrive to a given region of Israel until Chol HaMoed? The people would have been compelled to keep two days of Yo"T rishon because of the real safeik, but would they have been compelled to also keep two days of Yo"T acharon despite the safeik having been resolved? NL not.Josh M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14414532577328945154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-79087613821280207232008-09-25T09:08:00.000-04:002008-09-25T09:08:00.000-04:00My parents own both and have yet to keep one day w...My parents own both and have yet to keep one day when they were there.<BR/>I think their logic is that it depends on where you live rather than where you own.LittleBirdieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05532161424217457972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-63057933137360356182008-09-25T02:00:00.000-04:002008-09-25T02:00:00.000-04:00the question does not apply to most poskim, as mos...the question does not apply to most poskim, as most poskim do not just base how many days to keep solely on where you are currently located.<BR/><BR/>However, according to the chacham tzvi, it would be a shailoh, but I think it is clear he would keep one day in Israel and 2 in the US. I think Rav Ovadia holds that way as well (for single people) - he says that someone, an unmarried person, visiting Israel, while in Israel, holds one day YT. I think if that person would travel to the US during YT, he would keep 2 days for the last part (or vice versa)Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-87191355704427262372008-09-25T01:03:00.000-04:002008-09-25T01:03:00.000-04:00Josh - But wouldn't it be odd to treat the safeik ...Josh - But wouldn't it be odd to treat the safeik one way then another within the same Yom Tov? It's like changing a minhag in the middle of something (can't think of a great example).Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-85999921835989607572008-09-25T00:09:00.000-04:002008-09-25T00:09:00.000-04:00What Steg said. Whether or not one is a toshav wo...What Steg said. Whether or not one is a toshav would be irrelevant according to the Ch"Tz. <BR/><BR/>If one follows the rov poskim who argue with the Ch"Tz, though, it seems likely that one would go by one's primary residence (leaving aside complications such as living in EY for a full year, etc.), rather than where one happens to own land, unless there's a third shita that I'm unaware of (which very well may be the case).<BR/><BR/>I don't think things would be any different for Pesach, as yomtov sheni is a din in the safeik (lav davka) of the individual day, not having anything to do with the complete chag as a unit.Josh M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14414532577328945154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-54060069622178537022008-09-24T23:20:00.000-04:002008-09-24T23:20:00.000-04:00According to the Hhakham Tzevi, all that matters i...According to the Hhakham Tzevi, all that matters is where you are, not where you're from or where you're going to or where you generally live or where you own land.<BR/><BR/>Based on that ruling, i once kept the First Day (sic) of Pesahh in Israel, and the Last Days (sic) of Pesahh in the USA.Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-50622718446202224572008-09-24T23:16:00.000-04:002008-09-24T23:16:00.000-04:00Note: I don't think we're 100% keeping one day the...Note: I don't think we're 100% keeping one day there and two days here. It was just brought up as a (very probable) possibility. I said I felt very weird about that, but it's still up for discussion in my family.Erachethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00660802321998349072noreply@blogger.com