tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post39338089755008577..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: Terrorism & Poverty - Not LinkedEzziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-27406477860467672962007-09-04T17:49:00.000-04:002007-09-04T17:49:00.000-04:00Not Shakers, Quakers.Not Shakers, Quakers.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-4526807505220616512007-09-04T17:05:00.000-04:002007-09-04T17:05:00.000-04:00Quakers? Trying to kill off the human population?Quakers? Trying to kill off the human population?Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-634291595259458232007-09-04T16:58:00.000-04:002007-09-04T16:58:00.000-04:00Fine, I'll settle on Modern Orthodox Jews. Or Qua...Fine, I'll settle on Modern Orthodox Jews. Or Quakers. Quakers would be great.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-70798554790973156892007-09-04T16:38:00.000-04:002007-09-04T16:38:00.000-04:00Why would we want to do that!? :)Why would we want to do that!? :)Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-37549468220343563582007-09-04T14:42:00.000-04:002007-09-04T14:42:00.000-04:00Another good reason to strengthen it!Hey, as long ...<I>Another good reason to strengthen it!</I><BR/><BR/>Hey, as long as we're dreaming, we might as well turn them into secular humanists while we're at it! ;-)Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-4398563315795131672007-09-04T14:35:00.000-04:002007-09-04T14:35:00.000-04:00Avrom - Well put.JA - I think the idea that povert...Avrom - Well put.<BR/><BR/>JA - <I>I think the idea that poverty breeds terrorism was pretty much discredited by the 9/11 hijackers.</I><BR/><BR/>Agreed. However, a good, strong chunk on the left keep repeating it anyway.<BR/><BR/><I>There is certainly a lot of truth to the idea that terrorism breeds well in a place like today's Iraq, where the government is impotent.</I><BR/><BR/>Another good reason to strengthen it!<BR/><BR/><I>But how does that explain the number of terrorists from Saudi Arabia, which is one of the most stable dictatorships in the Middle East?</I><BR/><BR/>Isn't that the point? It's very stable, it is decently wealthy... etc.<BR/><BR/><I>Empirically, it seems that fanaticism combined with a domineering ideology (for which the treatment of women is a good proxy) is what causes terrorism.</I><BR/><BR/>Agreed. Interesting proxy - sounds like it might be true.<BR/><BR/><I>Oh, and obviously, if your group is powerful enough, you don't need terrorism; you can just go to war.</I><BR/><BR/>Agreed. Just look at Iran's threats. :PEzziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-53483575035426156162007-09-04T12:57:00.000-04:002007-09-04T12:57:00.000-04:00I think the idea that poverty breeds terrorism was...I think the idea that poverty breeds terrorism was pretty much discredited by the 9/11 hijackers. There is certainly a lot of truth to the idea that terrorism breeds well in a place like today's Iraq, where the government is impotent. <BR/><BR/>But how does that explain the number of terrorists from Saudi Arabia, which is one of the most stable dictatorships in the Middle East? And why are Muslims so much more likely to be terrorists than, say, South Americans?<BR/><BR/>Empirically, it seems that fanaticism combined with a domineering ideology (for which the treatment of women is a good proxy) is what causes terrorism. Even among Jews (l'havdil!) you see a negative correlation between feminism and the degree to which violence is looked to as a solution.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and obviously, if your group is powerful enough, you don't need terrorism; you can just go to war.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-22316058150823993962007-09-04T12:37:00.000-04:002007-09-04T12:37:00.000-04:00"The idea that poverty breeds terror appears obvio..."The idea that poverty breeds terror appears obvious; how could it be otherwise? "<BR/><BR/>This sentence shows you where the CNN journalist comes from, to him (her?) its obvious. To others, it was never that "obvious" and should have never been obvious as soon as it was discovered who was in those planes that hit the towers.Avromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03008882029101180016noreply@blogger.com