tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post1912766045501080612..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: Honesty and The Jewish Community V: Well IntentionedEzziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-62487873279970931102011-05-09T09:07:25.184-04:002011-05-09T09:07:25.184-04:00What burns me up even more is that I have learned ...What burns me up even more is that I have learned about "funny bookkeeping" It is the kind of bookkeeping in which you use loopholes in the law to create charities that aren't charities. I became familiar with this kind of thing by reading about Kiryas Yoel, but if it can be done there, I assume that it can be done anywhere. Can you imagine what non-frum Jews and gentiles think when they get wind of that kind of thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-45655931868391433022011-05-08T22:17:27.267-04:002011-05-08T22:17:27.267-04:00Wow, that's horrible. (I'm not familiar wi...Wow, that's horrible. (I'm not familiar with the situation - feel free to email me.) But perfect example - by honoring or even overly acknowledging those who commit horrible acts, we are doing a disservice to everyone.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-16932316214010248432011-05-08T22:15:39.889-04:002011-05-08T22:15:39.889-04:00I never thought about the Anti-Semitism question. ...I never thought about the Anti-Semitism question. I wanted to vent because I am outraged. The man had sex offenders in his nursing home. In addition, he and his son were accused of running an<br />"interesting" pharmaceutical company. It made the papers, and you can google the man's name and find out all about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-88766836354209191242011-05-08T21:55:49.038-04:002011-05-08T21:55:49.038-04:00JA - I am not unsympathetic; I merely do not belie...JA - I am not unsympathetic; I merely do not believe that focusing on the prisoner is the appropriate message. I believe that the same organizations which service those without fathers can service these families as well, and the way this was presented was horrible.<br /><br />Roy - Thank you!<br /><br />Anon - I think that's a rather good example, though hard to know without specifics. A better example may be Rubashkin - I think there may be valid questions about the judge or what not in that situation, but if I'm not mistaken there was little argument about some aspects of what he did. Why is he defended so virulently and presented often as a tzaddik? There's a difference between saying "yes, he did wrong, but let's keep it in perspective" and accusing people of anti-Semitism for how they treated "such a righteous" person.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-71848713919704680102011-05-08T21:48:53.768-04:002011-05-08T21:48:53.768-04:00I live in a major metropolis. There is a gentleman...I live in a major metropolis. There is a gentleman here who is a major philanthropist. He has been honored by many of our local institutions on any number of occasions. His last name appears on a substantial number of buildings such as schools and shuls. He has been hailed as a tzaddik. At the same time, he is the kind of nursing home owner that gives this industry a bad name. There is more that I can say about the man, but if I do, you might be able to identify him. What are we teaching our children when we honor him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-19795365856419826282011-05-03T09:58:27.418-04:002011-05-03T09:58:27.418-04:00TO Anonymous- How much did SM pay you to be his mo...TO Anonymous- How much did SM pay you to be his mouthpiece? Don't you feel a little guilty taking stolen money from SM?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-18037868132004959832011-04-14T11:43:26.215-04:002011-04-14T11:43:26.215-04:00And sympathy is not a finite resource.And sympathy is not a finite resource.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-28262566638019969232011-04-14T11:43:07.415-04:002011-04-14T11:43:07.415-04:00While it's true that charity is a finite resou...While it's true that charity is a finite resource, in practice there are all kinds of charities based on the charity's priorities. For example, there are charities that rescue animals even though there are people that need rescuing. <br /><br />A charity for prisoners and their families strikes me as reasonable as many and more reasonable than many others (like kollels, charities that help build shuls, charities that do missionary/kiruv work, etc.)Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-86618483386836269262011-04-14T11:15:59.725-04:002011-04-14T11:15:59.725-04:00JA - I think you misunderstood my points. I'm ...JA - I think you misunderstood my points. I'm merely saying that for charities to give special status to criminals or their families is wrong, even if well intentioned. I have little interest in vengeance, but I'll save my sympathy for those who deserve it far more.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-25407152446275110192011-04-14T11:10:46.254-04:002011-04-14T11:10:46.254-04:00Criminals are people, too, Ezzie. If what they di...Criminals are people, too, Ezzie. If what they did was an isolated incident, or if they have had a significant change, then they could be overall very good people.<br /><br />Lots of religious people from other religions (Buddhism, Christianity, Islam) work with inmates to help them improve their lives and become better people. Is there some part of Judaism that I'm not aware of that says once you commit a crime, it's unforgivable?<br /><br />Your feelings sound like they come more from a desire for vengeance than from a desire for good.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-61373867878942000722011-04-13T20:09:17.504-04:002011-04-13T20:09:17.504-04:00Lol. Anyone who actually thinks that is as delusio...Lol. Anyone who actually thinks that is as delusional as the criminal responsible.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-11890436316225260872011-04-13T19:43:39.011-04:002011-04-13T19:43:39.011-04:00Look at Mr. Goldish playing innocent again. We all...Look at Mr. Goldish playing innocent again. We all know the role you had in multi million dollar frauds.<br /><br />Stop being holier than everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-76885418579166039512011-04-13T16:22:55.770-04:002011-04-13T16:22:55.770-04:00Makes me sick, tired, and poor. ;)Makes me sick, tired, and poor. ;)Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-3780032481414137492011-04-13T16:20:37.382-04:002011-04-13T16:20:37.382-04:00Ugh. Makes me sickUgh. Makes me sickSaraKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053908720926177402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-36525055237242110892011-04-13T16:10:19.048-04:002011-04-13T16:10:19.048-04:00Exactly.Exactly.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-2240905149864328592011-04-13T16:09:33.970-04:002011-04-13T16:09:33.970-04:00I will never understand why frum people think laws...I will never understand why frum people think laws do not apply to them. I just recently commented to someone that something she does is illegal (not worthy of jail, but still wrong) and she made all kinds of excuses. I couldn't believe it. She thinks she is not hurting anyone, and she probably isn't, really. But that's not the point.SaraKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053908720926177402noreply@blogger.com