tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post116612627470783436..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: Ah, To Be YoungEzziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166416267923312532006-12-17T23:31:00.000-05:002006-12-17T23:31:00.000-05:00SL - As always, amen.SL - As always, amen.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166415431894974942006-12-17T23:17:00.000-05:002006-12-17T23:17:00.000-05:00Bob has a good point. Kids are being brought up t...Bob has a good point. Kids are being brought up to be dependent. They aren't expected to go out and earn their own living, and they don't develop the maturity that comes along with that responsibility. <BR/><BR/>If those who are pushing for younger marriage for pushing for greater responsiblity and independence, I might be jumping on the bandwagon. But, since the talk is just getting married earlier for the guys (and letting the girls complete more of their education so they can be more fiscally supportive). . . . I say "no thanks." I've seen enough young divorces in the frum community already and the financial issues look like they may be coming to a head soon.Orthonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07892074485262548496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166318786981480412006-12-16T20:26:00.000-05:002006-12-16T20:26:00.000-05:00Bob - Not exactly sure what you're asking. I don't...Bob - Not exactly sure what you're asking. I don't think that they're incredibly immature per se, though that's obviously true for some. But there's no reason to rush them into marriage.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166204950779876842006-12-15T12:49:00.000-05:002006-12-15T12:49:00.000-05:00Is it possible that the stereotypical younger girl...Is it possible that the stereotypical younger girls (or boys) discussed here are immature because they were brought up to be immature? I think people used to assume adult or adult-like responsibilities at younger ages than they do now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166141901716778132006-12-14T19:18:00.000-05:002006-12-14T19:18:00.000-05:00JA - Oy.Shoshana - Seriously. (I know, I'm one to ...JA - Oy.<BR/><BR/>Shoshana - Seriously. (I know, I'm one to talk, right?) As someone kept yelling [or adamantly saying] last night at 7 brachos - "25 is not 'old'! 28 isn't old! Agh. 45 is already old."<BR/><BR/>Anon - Yeah, I've heard that one.<BR/><BR/>LT - True too. :)<BR/><BR/>Ariella - You are one of the many I was referring to, actually. And LOL.<BR/><BR/>Anon - Yes, that's what I mean. Am I saying everyone should wait until 30? No, of course not. But waiting from 18-19 to (say) 22ish to start dating isn't putting anyone at risk. Good comment.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166139131619288602006-12-14T18:32:00.000-05:002006-12-14T18:32:00.000-05:00The ratio of girls to guys would decrease, you mea...The ratio of girls to guys would decrease, you mean, yes?<BR/><BR/>There might be a problem with some getting married too early, but there is also a problem with many in the larger Jewish world getting married too late, having trouble conceiving, having mor etourble building lives together after having built more substantial lives apart first. I wonder which is a worse problem?<BR/><BR/>People shouldn't get married, generally, before the year in which they turn 22, I think, but also shouldn't wait until they pass their mid-20s.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, there is tradition -- ages of majority of twelve and thirteen aside -- that a person isn't really an adult until the age of twenty. (Maybe someone else can supply citations?) So opinions could be put forth supported by these ideas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166136930719123312006-12-14T17:55:00.000-05:002006-12-14T17:55:00.000-05:00Ezzie, obviously you must be misrepresnting the ar...Ezzie, obviously you must be misrepresnting the article. How could anything Mispacha Magazine suggests be viewed as anything less than Halacha leMoshe MiSinai? ;-) <BR/>Anyway, if the article in question is tthe same one (The Mispacha copies keep coming to my house but arrive on Monday after the week each comes out in print) as the one posted by R' JR on CC today, I presented my take on it in http://kallahmagazine.com/WordPress/?p=283Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166131961100694412006-12-14T16:32:00.000-05:002006-12-14T16:32:00.000-05:00we'll have a divorce problemYour use of future ten...<I>we'll have a divorce problem</I><BR/><BR/>Your use of future tense implies we don't already have a divorce problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166131659415985682006-12-14T16:27:00.000-05:002006-12-14T16:27:00.000-05:00As a rebbi of mine once said with regard to the su...As a rebbi of mine once said with regard to the suggestion of having boys getting married younger in order to solve the "shidduch problem" - "great - we wont have a shidduch problem - we'll have a divorce problem"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166129620261936782006-12-14T15:53:00.000-05:002006-12-14T15:53:00.000-05:00Don't even get me started on this one - I think it...Don't even get me started on this one - I think it's absolutely nuts to <I>pressure</I> teenagers into getting married before they have any idea of what they are getting themselves into and how they are going to support themselves. And to make girls feel like they are "old" if they aren't married by the age of 22. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone deciding to wait to marry until they are more adequately prepared to deal with life, and their families will probably appreciate it later on.Shoshanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365142117481675663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1166126996997557742006-12-14T15:09:00.000-05:002006-12-14T15:09:00.000-05:00I don't know... Give the girls a couple extra year...I don't know... Give the girls a couple extra years and they might start getting ideas. Better marry them off young and guarantee virginity.<BR/><BR/>[/sarcasm]Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.com