tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post113587092577351302..comments2024-03-02T03:29:09.759-05:00Comments on SerandEz and Friends: As the Bear Dozes...Ezziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1136152355186782942006-01-01T16:52:00.000-05:002006-01-01T16:52:00.000-05:00You didn't read the comments above you.First, I no...You didn't read the comments above you.<BR/><BR/>First, I noted he said it was "constitutional", but I agree that that was misleading, implying it to be perfectly legal. Read the comments by Kerr, however, and there was a good commenter (IIRC) who showed how it was legal as well.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1136139504402650132006-01-01T13:18:00.000-05:002006-01-01T13:18:00.000-05:00You lose points for honesty.Kerr called the wireta...You lose points for honesty.<BR/><BR/>Kerr called the wiretapping ILLEGAL.<BR/><BR/>Sunstein said the president had a "plausible but not decisive case"DovBearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13300090924998038181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135907243478803982005-12-29T20:47:00.000-05:002005-12-29T20:47:00.000-05:00Thanks! And thanks for all those links to the arti...Thanks! And thanks for all those links to the articles - they make for fascinating reading! (even though my view on the issue is already made up - and I bet you can tell what it is!)Irina Tsukermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964771563778702009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135892860401546232005-12-29T16:47:00.000-05:002005-12-29T16:47:00.000-05:00I added the DovBear links - I didn't realize I for...I added the DovBear links - I didn't realize I forgot to put them in originally!Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135891816936836172005-12-29T16:30:00.000-05:002005-12-29T16:30:00.000-05:00Irina - which post do you mean?Irina - which post do you mean?Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135882167802940752005-12-29T13:49:00.000-05:002005-12-29T13:49:00.000-05:00What was the name of the post?What was the name of the post?Irina Tsukermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10964771563778702009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135876810869623932005-12-29T12:20:00.000-05:002005-12-29T12:20:00.000-05:00I would have to guess the border exception only wo...I would have to guess the border exception only works in relation to the 4th Amendment, but cannot come into play against a statute because Congress could have easily included it. Just a thought.Nephtulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00245081159460337112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135876294083529862005-12-29T12:11:00.000-05:002005-12-29T12:11:00.000-05:00Either way, Rivlin's arguments make more sense to ...Either way, Rivlin's arguments make more sense to me (and not because I was biased that way, though I'm sure that it played a role). Very interesting debate, though - thanks Nephtuli.Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135876224617470022005-12-29T12:10:00.000-05:002005-12-29T12:10:00.000-05:00Wow. That was a fascinating debate.I wonder why th...Wow. That was a fascinating debate.<BR/><BR/>I wonder why the border argument doesn't invalidate FISA (I'm assuming that if it does, Rivlin would have stated as much, though he may have implied it in his questions).Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135873968617621942005-12-29T11:32:00.000-05:002005-12-29T11:32:00.000-05:00There were a gazillion comments on that post. Her...There were a gazillion comments on that post. <A HREF="http://www.fed-soc.org/pdf/domesticsurveillance.pdf" REL="nofollow"> Here</A> is an interesting debate between a libertarian and conservative about the wiretapping. Note that even the libertarian did not find the wiretapping unconstitutional, but only a violation of FISA.Nephtulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00245081159460337112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135873431059736552005-12-29T11:23:00.000-05:002005-12-29T11:23:00.000-05:00I believe one of the commenters noted how that is ...I believe one of the commenters noted how that is not a problem either, but I haven't checked in a few days...Ezziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494592434522239195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13326001.post-1135873253894685422005-12-29T11:20:00.000-05:002005-12-29T11:20:00.000-05:00One point: Kerr believes that the wiretapping migh...One point: Kerr believes that the wiretapping might have violated FISA, so while it is likely constitutional, it is probably illegal.Nephtulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00245081159460337112noreply@blogger.com